Can I just spray wd40 instead of clean rifles? The trigger break wasn’t the best for absolute accuracy, but it was acceptable for a service pistol. Nice grip, very reliable, but not as durable as the Glock. Both pistols are capable of incredibly accuracy. The Beretta 92 is a pistol from the era of the SIG P226 and CZ 75. The Beretta 92FS package comes with two magazines, a cup bearing the Beretta logo, and a manual that almost no one cares about. Many of us do not like to pull the trigger before we field-strip a pistol, and this is a criticism of the Glock. Lock the slide of the unloaded pistol to the rear and rotate the takedown lever down and run the slide forward off the frame. If I'm reading this right, you're looking for 1 gun to serve as both a concealed carry piece and an open carry piece? Firing the +P loads wasn’t a chore, and the pistol doesn’t demonstrate heavy recoil or muzzle flip. Beretta 92 vs Glock 17: The Wonder Nines : By Sam Hoober | Contributing Editor. The fit of the new barrel seems tighter compared to several Gen4 Glock pistols on hand. We have rated it highly in the past, but while its reliability and accuracy are not questioned, the pistol fell short compared to the others reviewed in this test. Here’s what we found: The APX is the least expensive handgun tested. The senior rater told the team that it is what it is, and if SIG calls it a DAO fine, but they should rate its usefulness. (God help anyone with an aftermarket trigger or 3.5-pound disconnect in a service or personal defense handgun.) We had to ask ourselves if this was because of long familiarity or because of a real defect in the SIG trigger. CTRL + SPACE for auto-complete. And 3 distinct operating systems. Choosing between the Beretta 92 and the Glock 17 In a showdown between the Glock 17 vs Beretta 92, the truth is that both are good choices. How much real difference this makes is debatable, but there is a discernible difference to shooters who have used the Glock. The trigger action is double action only in common with the Glock and SIG pistols. The M17 is based on the P320. The rear night nights are twin dots. The three-dot sights are fast to acquire. We like the slide lock and magazine release. Older trigger parts will not fit the Gen5, and neither will existing aftermarket triggers. The Beretta APX was very close. They are about 1.5mm deep. The accuracy was very consistent. The SIG P320-M17 was more neutral, the Beretta APX similar to the Glock. The Glock 45 is basically a variant of the Glock 19 but with significant differences related to the sights, slide, and features. The Beretta APX played tag with the Glock 45 for top combat firing in this exercise, with the Glock besting the Beretta by a margin. Speed drills were easily carried out. Aesthetics. The curvature of the trigger face is less than the SIG and other DAO handguns on hand for comparison. Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Soldier0117, Dec 13, 2007. your definitely not a cop or Beretta would be out because of weight 34.6 ounces,go glock 24 ounces, more accurate more reliable, sigs good but go with what you know,I go with glock. I bought a Walther P22 when first issued but later got a letter from DOJ. Written and photographed by Gun Tests Staff, using evaluations from Gun Tests team testers. We chose the Compact version of the Beretta APX because this size is more in sync with the Glock 45, and the compact is far more likely to be chosen for concealed-carry use. Those who have not tested the pistols extensively and who have not taken time to compare features may feel these pistols are cut from the same cloth, but by assuming that, those shooters abrogate a lot of responsibility in choosing the handgun that suits them best. Function of the controls and the suitability of the sights and trigger for combat shooting are important considerations. The pistols each fired 120 rounds on the combat range, hitting man-sized targets at 5, 7, 10, and 15 yards. The availability of compact and medium frames for the full-size pistol has merit. Some of the raters felt that it is a single action. I'm looking to get a new handgun for conceal and carry. It is also the least expensive...and a very good quality. American law enforcement has expressed an interest in the short-slide long-grip pistol but wanted a black gun, not a coyote brown one. We felt the Beretta was the best finished of the pistols tested. The grip frame fit the raters’ hands well, and there were no complaints about adhesion when firing. The front set is a single tritium insert that is visible in dim light and bright in darkness. A frame-mounted decocker isn’t necessary with DAO pistols. I assume that when you say “a Glock” and “a Beretta” that you are referring to a specific model of handgun produced by the respective manufacturers. The SIG features a modular design, and there are spare frames readily available. Both pistols are capable of incredibly accuracy. After a shot is fired and if the shooter is engaged in tactical movement, the Beretta 92 should be decocked for safety. The slide’s stiffness to rack was a problem. When handling and examining the APX, an impression held by most of the raters is that the slide is overlarge for the frame. It is difficult to press cartridges into the magazine and to the rear. There are cutouts at the bottom of the grip that allow the shooter to grasp and jerk the magazine in case of a stuck magazine. If you're going to open carry, then carry a full-sized gun. ToolTechGunsight.com offers a night-sight package that includes removing the rear sight from your frame, machining off the front sight, and installing a Trijicon 3-dot rear and pinned front sight tandem for $299 plus $18 shipping. Some felt this was too much, but it did not affect holstering in the cheap fabric holster we put to use during the range test. This is a recent price from BudsGunShop.com. The takedown lever also releases the fire-control module, and with a little effort, it may be removed from the frame. Then the ground shifted. Both of these guns have track records that speak for themselves. But we did not rate the pistol down in this regard. The frame has the standard rail for mounting combat lights. The sights are not as well suited to combat use as the other pistols, and the sights are not easily changed. We did not like the trigger as well as the other DAO handguns. The rear sight is well designed for general use, but it is not as good as the night sights found on two out of three of the polymer-frame handguns tested. I know they're all top quality, but just curious about other's experience with them. Unlike on the Beretta and the Glock, there is no bifurcated trigger. According to the Lyman Electronic Trigger Gauge, trigger compression is 5.6 pounds, slightly more than the Glock, but the 0.2 pound difference was not discernible during firing. The features that are most desirable in a concealed carry gun are size and weight, with less always being better. The magazine was very difficult to load, even for our adult male raters. The Beretta 92 was superior once we got past the long double-action first shot, but for speed to a first shot hit and overall combat ability, the Glock 45 won the test. We liked the feel of the handgun, and the sights were excellent for combat use. The frame and handle are actually slim in comparison to the slide and fit most hands well. They worked as well as the Beretta APX’s, although the Beretta had greater breadth to catch when the hand is moving and sweating. However, when the grasping grooves of the Beretta were put to use, they proved to be excellent. Gun Tests has been independently reviewing firearms since 1989. The striker runs forward but not with enough force to fire the pistol. Our Team Said: The pistol is accurate in combat firing and accurate from the bench. The Glock 19X and Beretta M9A3. The Beretta 92 shows the age of its design with a slide-mounted decocker and long DA trigger pull. The Glock 45 is supplied with three 17-round magazines. The Beretta safety lever may be placed on to move the trigger out of battery. The SIG, however, had less take up, and it put up a “wall” we had to master. The Beretta won’t carry as easily as the APX and Glock, but it’s comparable to the P320-M17 in size. Combat-firing tests confirmed our initial impressions. Service lives of both pistols is in the multiple thousands of rounds. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. In firing from a solid bench rest, the pistol exhibited good accuracy. No need to learn 2 different operating systems, and no chance of doing the wrong thing under pressure.